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Here is the setup:
$110 tournament. 61 players. Down to 13. 8 places paid (6-8 all pay under
$200 but first is $1,700). Six players at your table. Blinds are 600/1200 w/
100 ante. You have 12k. You are second biggest stack. Big stack is UTG and
third stack is immediately to your left. Table has been very tight.
You find AKh. UTG folds. What's your play? Why?
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 8:30 am Post subject: Re: WWYD -- AKs |
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I jam all in without a second thought. Aks is a magnificent hand 6 handed,
and with this structure and you being in 2nd chip position with only 10 *
the BB, you dont really have enough leeway to raise 4* the BB and fold.
The only stack that can knock you out has already folded, so even if you
are unlucky and someone finds a better hand then you, you cant be
eliminated..
Also with the anti's included, the pot has become attractive enough to
make it worth picking up without even getting a call.. (although obviously
you would welcome a call with any other Ace/x)
In short, if you dream of folding this hand, you have already conceded the
bigger prize money to the more aggressive players.
On May 4 2005 9:00 AM, David P wrote:
| Quote: | Here is the setup:
$110 tournament. 61 players. Down to 13. 8 places paid (6-8 all pay under
$200 but first is $1,700). Six players at your table. Blinds are 600/1200
w/
100 ante. You have 12k. You are second biggest stack. Big stack is UTG and
third stack is immediately to your left. Table has been very tight.
You find AKh. UTG folds. What's your play? Why?
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 9:00 am Post subject: Re: WWYD -- AKs |
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Without second thought, all-in.
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Here is the setup:
$110 tournament. 61 players. Down to 13. 8 places paid (6-8 all pay under
$200 but first is $1,700). Six players at your table. Blinds are 600/1200
w/
100 ante. You have 12k. You are second biggest stack. Big stack is UTG and
third stack is immediately to your left. Table has been very tight.
You find AKh. UTG folds. What's your play? Why?
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 9:30 am Post subject: Re: WWYD -- AKs |
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
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Here is the setup:
$110 tournament. 61 players. Down to 13. 8 places paid (6-8 all pay under
$200 but first is $1,700).
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You make it sound like a good deal. You have $6100 in
prize pool and $1700 is 28% which is smaller than what
most tournaments pay for 1st place.
| Quote: | Six players at your table. Blinds are 600/1200 w/
100 ante. You have 12k. You are second biggest stack. Big stack is UTG and
third stack is immediately to your left. Table has been very tight.
You find AKh. UTG folds. What's your play? Why?
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Since you need to hit 5th place or higher to even double your
stack, a conservative approach seems rather silly. You want
to get to the final table with a big stack. A raise here will
narrow the field and thus make for a smaller pot. Call and
let the others behind you in cheaply. If the flop doesn't fit,
you fold losing very little. If you do hit an ace, king or
better, the pot you win should be huge.
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Buxx
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 10:00 am Post subject: Re: WWYD -- AKs |
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I disagree with this, i would think making it 3600 to go with the
intention of calling any re-raise. I think this is a fairly unique
situation where there is little value in being the one to put in the last
bet.
The idea here is that moving in eliminates action from a ton of hands that
you want action from (Ax and hands like KQ) but doesnt do much to
discourage action from hands that you don't particularly care for, which
is to say any pocket pair
AQ or AJ is much more likely to move when there is the added incentive of
being the one who is pushing rather than the one who is calling. though i
suppose the same logic applies to smaller pairs as well, however, with
blinds this high, i dont see many pairs folding to a flat out move, save
for maybe 22 or 33.
now where this angle gets tricky is that you face the possibility of being
called and being presented with a flop that isnt particularly pretty.
although you do have the advantage of being the one who gets to bet first
at a raggy flop.
It also depends on the stack sizes of the other 3 players, if they are so
short stacked that calling 3600 is equivilent to calling you moving in,
then you may want to move just to get the dude on your left out.
AA-KK: youre dicked either way
QQ-55: its probably a coinflp any way
22-44: the only coinflip hands i can see folding to a big stack moving in,
but may call a 3xbb raise, and even then, probably not
AQ,AJ,AT,Ax,KQ,KJ: hands that are more likely to give action to a 3xbb
raise
Bux
On May 4 2005 4:53 AM, Jon Eaton wrote:
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Here is the setup:
$110 tournament. 61 players. Down to 13. 8 places paid (6-8 all pay under
$200 but first is $1,700). Six players at your table. Blinds are 600/1200
w/
100 ante. You have 12k. You are second biggest stack. Big stack is UTG and
third stack is immediately to your left. Table has been very tight.
You find AKh. UTG folds. What's your play? Why?
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: WWYD -- AKs |
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Hindsight and all........ With that flop I would not have risked more chips with
AK and would have regretted not going all-in, until I saw the tens of course!
So for once it is good to be limp.............
On May 4 2005 7:45 AM, David P wrote:
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The votes are in.
Two say push.
Two say limp.
One says make a small raise.
I moved all-in. The guy on my immediate left called with pocket 10s. Two
hearts came on the flop (all babies). Turn and river were no help. I went
out
on the next hand when I raised UTG w/ J10s (I was down to 3k) and the same guy
found QQ and called. I hit a flush to the J but, of course, he had the Q.
Given the flop, I was going to double this guy up no matter what. He had an
overpair post flop so no way he folds to any bet and it is doubtful that he
would check it down post-flop if I had made a small raise.
The issue I have with limping is that I am letting two shorter stacks in for
cheap and free and if they do flop a pair then I have lost $1200 on the hand
when I could have won $2400 with the simple all-in raise. That's a swing of
almost 1/3 of my stack.
Thanks for the feedback. AK all-in short-handed late in a tournament is such
an
obvious play and I would like to be able to mix it up a little more.
On May 4 2005 7:09 AM, D.A.N. wrote:
I would slow play because the obvious thing to do is jam it in. Since you
are
the big stack in the hand you can bully after the flop.
On May 4 2005 1:00 AM, David P wrote:
Here is the setup:
$110 tournament. 61 players. Down to 13. 8 places paid (6-8 all pay
under
$200 but first is $1,700). Six players at your table. Blinds are
600/1200
w/
100 ante. You have 12k. You are second biggest stack. Big stack is UTG
and
third stack is immediately to your left. Table has been very tight.
You find AKh. UTG folds. What's your play? Why?
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: WWYD -- AKs |
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The votes are in.
Two say push.
Two say limp.
One says make a small raise.
I moved all-in. The guy on my immediate left called with pocket 10s. Two
hearts came on the flop (all babies). Turn and river were no help. I went out
on the next hand when I raised UTG w/ J10s (I was down to 3k) and the same guy
found QQ and called. I hit a flush to the J but, of course, he had the Q.
Given the flop, I was going to double this guy up no matter what. He had an
overpair post flop so no way he folds to any bet and it is doubtful that he
would check it down post-flop if I had made a small raise.
The issue I have with limping is that I am letting two shorter stacks in for
cheap and free and if they do flop a pair then I have lost $1200 on the hand
when I could have won $2400 with the simple all-in raise. That's a swing of
almost 1/3 of my stack.
Thanks for the feedback. AK all-in short-handed late in a tournament is such an
obvious play and I would like to be able to mix it up a little more.
On May 4 2005 7:09 AM, D.A.N. wrote:
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I would slow play because the obvious thing to do is jam it in. Since you are
the big stack in the hand you can bully after the flop.
On May 4 2005 1:00 AM, David P wrote:
Here is the setup:
$110 tournament. 61 players. Down to 13. 8 places paid (6-8 all pay under
$200 but first is $1,700). Six players at your table. Blinds are 600/1200
w/
100 ante. You have 12k. You are second biggest stack. Big stack is UTG
and
third stack is immediately to your left. Table has been very tight.
You find AKh. UTG folds. What's your play? Why?
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: WWYD -- AKs |
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Buxx and Gary are on the right track.
you dont want to go all in for all the reasons buxx mentioned.
but i think just calling is sooooo weak, why do you want to let the blinds get
YOUR pot?? you will probably not fit the flop and the two blinds very likely
will hit something to play with.
raise the minimum! looking to get action, yet putting pressure on the blinds.
KookieMonstr.
On May 4 2005 7:59 AM, D.A.N. wrote:
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Hindsight and all........ With that flop I would not have risked more chips
with
AK and would have regretted not going all-in, until I saw the tens of course!
So for once it is good to be limp.............
On May 4 2005 7:45 AM, David P wrote:
The votes are in.
Two say push.
Two say limp.
One says make a small raise.
I moved all-in. The guy on my immediate left called with pocket 10s. Two
hearts came on the flop (all babies). Turn and river were no help. I went
out
on the next hand when I raised UTG w/ J10s (I was down to 3k) and the same
guy
found QQ and called. I hit a flush to the J but, of course, he had the Q.
Given the flop, I was going to double this guy up no matter what. He had an
overpair post flop so no way he folds to any bet and it is doubtful that he
would check it down post-flop if I had made a small raise.
The issue I have with limping is that I am letting two shorter stacks in for
cheap and free and if they do flop a pair then I have lost $1200 on the hand
when I could have won $2400 with the simple all-in raise. That's a swing of
almost 1/3 of my stack.
Thanks for the feedback. AK all-in short-handed late in a tournament is
such
an
obvious play and I would like to be able to mix it up a little more.
On May 4 2005 7:09 AM, D.A.N. wrote:
I would slow play because the obvious thing to do is jam it in. Since you
are
the big stack in the hand you can bully after the flop.
On May 4 2005 1:00 AM, David P wrote:
Here is the setup:
$110 tournament. 61 players. Down to 13. 8 places paid (6-8 all pay
under
$200 but first is $1,700). Six players at your table. Blinds are
600/1200
w/
100 ante. You have 12k. You are second biggest stack. Big stack is
UTG
and
third stack is immediately to your left. Table has been very tight.
You find AKh. UTG folds. What's your play? Why?
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 12:30 am Post subject: Re: WWYD -- AKs |
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Limping? Are you kidding?
Everyone in this thread who says moving all-in isn't proper is insane.
5 players to go from the money, everyone tightens up. You have everyone
outchipped and everyone has less than 10 big blinds, therefore, ALL-IN is
the only move. Why the hell would you limp in?? What do you accomplish by
doing so? If anyone moves in, you call anyway. Push, no questions asked.
I seriously can't fathom that there is an argument. The original poster
lost, that doesn't mean that he isn't correct in moving in. A small raise
will commit anyone anyway, push and let them know you have a hand and you
won't back down. If you're limping you might as well just not play
tournament poker.
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Hindsight and all........ With that flop I would not have risked more
chips with
AK and would have regretted not going all-in, until I saw the tens of
course!
So for once it is good to be limp.............
On May 4 2005 7:45 AM, David P wrote:
The votes are in.
Two say push.
Two say limp.
One says make a small raise.
I moved all-in. The guy on my immediate left called with pocket 10s. Two
hearts came on the flop (all babies). Turn and river were no help. I
went
out
on the next hand when I raised UTG w/ J10s (I was down to 3k) and the
same guy
found QQ and called. I hit a flush to the J but, of course, he had the
Q.
Given the flop, I was going to double this guy up no matter what. He had
an
overpair post flop so no way he folds to any bet and it is doubtful that
he
would check it down post-flop if I had made a small raise.
The issue I have with limping is that I am letting two shorter stacks in
for
cheap and free and if they do flop a pair then I have lost $1200 on the
hand
when I could have won $2400 with the simple all-in raise. That's a swing
of
almost 1/3 of my stack.
Thanks for the feedback. AK all-in short-handed late in a tournament is
such
an
obvious play and I would like to be able to mix it up a little more.
On May 4 2005 7:09 AM, D.A.N. wrote:
I would slow play because the obvious thing to do is jam it in. Since
you
are
the big stack in the hand you can bully after the flop.
On May 4 2005 1:00 AM, David P wrote:
Here is the setup:
$110 tournament. 61 players. Down to 13. 8 places paid (6-8 all pay
under
$200 but first is $1,700). Six players at your table. Blinds are
600/1200
w/
100 ante. You have 12k. You are second biggest stack. Big stack is
UTG
and
third stack is immediately to your left. Table has been very tight.
You find AKh. UTG folds. What's your play? Why?
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Buxx
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 3:00 am Post subject: Re: WWYD -- AKs |
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I agree that limping is no good. But to say moving in is the only correct
play is a little off, i'm curious why my 3xBB raise is no good.
Buxx
On May 4 2005 8:13 PM, Jon Eaton wrote:
| Quote: | Limping? Are you kidding?
Everyone in this thread who says moving all-in isn't proper is insane.
5 players to go from the money, everyone tightens up. You have everyone
outchipped and everyone has less than 10 big blinds, therefore, ALL-IN is
the only move. Why the hell would you limp in?? What do you accomplish by
doing so? If anyone moves in, you call anyway. Push, no questions asked.
I seriously can't fathom that there is an argument. The original poster
lost, that doesn't mean that he isn't correct in moving in. A small raise
will commit anyone anyway, push and let them know you have a hand and you
won't back down. If you're limping you might as well just not play
tournament poker.
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"D.A.N." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Hindsight and all........ With that flop I would not have risked more
chips with
AK and would have regretted not going all-in, until I saw the tens of
course!
So for once it is good to be limp.............
On May 4 2005 7:45 AM, David P wrote:
The votes are in.
Two say push.
Two say limp.
One says make a small raise.
I moved all-in. The guy on my immediate left called with pocket 10s. Two
hearts came on the flop (all babies). Turn and river were no help. I
went
out
on the next hand when I raised UTG w/ J10s (I was down to 3k) and the
same guy
found QQ and called. I hit a flush to the J but, of course, he had the
Q.
Given the flop, I was going to double this guy up no matter what. He had
an
overpair post flop so no way he folds to any bet and it is doubtful that
he
would check it down post-flop if I had made a small raise.
The issue I have with limping is that I am letting two shorter stacks in
for
cheap and free and if they do flop a pair then I have lost $1200 on the
hand
when I could have won $2400 with the simple all-in raise. That's a swing
of
almost 1/3 of my stack.
Thanks for the feedback. AK all-in short-handed late in a tournament is
such
an
obvious play and I would like to be able to mix it up a little more.
On May 4 2005 7:09 AM, D.A.N. wrote:
I would slow play because the obvious thing to do is jam it in. Since
you
are
the big stack in the hand you can bully after the flop.
On May 4 2005 1:00 AM, David P wrote:
Here is the setup:
$110 tournament. 61 players. Down to 13. 8 places paid (6-8 all pay
under
$200 but first is $1,700). Six players at your table. Blinds are
600/1200
w/
100 ante. You have 12k. You are second biggest stack. Big stack is
UTG
and
third stack is immediately to your left. Table has been very tight.
You find AKh. UTG folds. What's your play? Why?
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David P <[email protected]> wrote:
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: Here is the setup:
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: $110 tournament.? 61 players.? Down to 13.? 8 places paid (6-8 all pay under
: $200 but first is $1,700).? Six players?at your table.? Blinds are 600/1200 w/
: 100 ante.? You have 12k.? You are second biggest stack.? Big stack is UTG and
: third stack is immediately to your left.? Table has been very tight.
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: You find AKh.? UTG folds.? What's your play?? Why?
Raise 2xBB at a tight table, look for the steal or at
least a positional advantage postflop against the BB.
Reraise at such a tight table means likely trouble. If
the other player has a big enough stack to hurt me bad,
I'm ready to lay down. Otherwise, I'll take him all in
and hope to win a race.
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Buxx
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: WWYD -- AKs |
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I think we're needlessly debating this, what we want to accomplish is the
same. all i'm saying is that allowing some illusion of counterplay is
likely to get a poor player to push with a weaker ace that they may not
call all their chips with a hand like AT, 99% of the time, youll either
take it down or end up getting all your chips in preflop either way you
play it.
I wholeheartedly agree with you that limping or considering folding
regardless of what happens is god awful.
Buxx
On May 4 2005 11:51 PM, Jon Eaton wrote:
| Quote: | What does it accomplish that moving all-in doesn't?
No one has any chips as is if the 2nd chip-leader has 10xBB. Moving
all-in is practically the same thing but sends a message that you have the
goods no matter what. If you're oging to raise, you're going to practically
set everyone all-in as is. Just go ahead and put your chips in anyway and
let them know you're not kidding around.
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I agree that limping is no good. But to say moving in is the only correct
play is a little off, i'm curious why my 3xBB raise is no good.
Buxx
On May 4 2005 8:13 PM, Jon Eaton wrote:
Limping? Are you kidding?
Everyone in this thread who says moving all-in isn't proper is
insane.
5 players to go from the money, everyone tightens up. You have
everyone
outchipped and everyone has less than 10 big blinds, therefore, ALL-IN
is
the only move. Why the hell would you limp in?? What do you accomplish
by
doing so? If anyone moves in, you call anyway. Push, no questions
asked.
I seriously can't fathom that there is an argument. The original
poster
lost, that doesn't mean that he isn't correct in moving in. A small
raise
will commit anyone anyway, push and let them know you have a hand and
you
won't back down. If you're limping you might as well just not play
tournament poker.
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"D.A.N." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Hindsight and all........ With that flop I would not have risked more
chips with
AK and would have regretted not going all-in, until I saw the tens of
course!
So for once it is good to be limp.............
On May 4 2005 7:45 AM, David P wrote:
The votes are in.
Two say push.
Two say limp.
One says make a small raise.
I moved all-in. The guy on my immediate left called with pocket 10s.
Two
hearts came on the flop (all babies). Turn and river were no help. I
went
out
on the next hand when I raised UTG w/ J10s (I was down to 3k) and
the
same guy
found QQ and called. I hit a flush to the J but, of course, he had
the
Q.
Given the flop, I was going to double this guy up no matter what. He
had
an
overpair post flop so no way he folds to any bet and it is doubtful
that
he
would check it down post-flop if I had made a small raise.
The issue I have with limping is that I am letting two shorter
stacks in
for
cheap and free and if they do flop a pair then I have lost $1200 on
the
hand
when I could have won $2400 with the simple all-in raise. That's a
swing
of
almost 1/3 of my stack.
Thanks for the feedback. AK all-in short-handed late in a tournament
is
such
an
obvious play and I would like to be able to mix it up a little more.
On May 4 2005 7:09 AM, D.A.N. wrote:
I would slow play because the obvious thing to do is jam it in.
Since
you
are
the big stack in the hand you can bully after the flop.
On May 4 2005 1:00 AM, David P wrote:
Here is the setup:
$110 tournament. 61 players. Down to 13. 8 places paid (6-8 all
pay
under
$200 but first is $1,700). Six players at your table. Blinds are
600/1200
w/
100 ante. You have 12k. You are second biggest stack. Big stack
is
UTG
and
third stack is immediately to your left. Table has been very
tight.
You find AKh. UTG folds. What's your play? Why?
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| Quote: | I wholeheartedly agree with you that limping or considering folding
regardless of what happens is god awful. |
Then we're on the same page.
As to wanting AT etc to make a play back at you... well if they're that
dumb, and they're too dumb to realize that you're calling anyway, then maybe
it could be accomplished. MOST players will realize when you bet 3xBB
there, which should represent on average about 40% of their stack, will
realize you'll call anyway, so it's about the same.
Pushing all-in to me just looks better.
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| Quote: | I think we're needlessly debating this, what we want to accomplish is the
same. all i'm saying is that allowing some illusion of counterplay is
likely to get a poor player to push with a weaker ace that they may not
call all their chips with a hand like AT, 99% of the time, youll either
take it down or end up getting all your chips in preflop either way you
play it.
I wholeheartedly agree with you that limping or considering folding
regardless of what happens is god awful.
Buxx
On May 4 2005 11:51 PM, Jon Eaton wrote:
What does it accomplish that moving all-in doesn't?
No one has any chips as is if the 2nd chip-leader has 10xBB. Moving
all-in is practically the same thing but sends a message that you have
the
goods no matter what. If you're oging to raise, you're going to
practically
set everyone all-in as is. Just go ahead and put your chips in anyway
and
let them know you're not kidding around.
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"Buxx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I agree that limping is no good. But to say moving in is the only
correct
play is a little off, i'm curious why my 3xBB raise is no good.
Buxx
On May 4 2005 8:13 PM, Jon Eaton wrote:
Limping? Are you kidding?
Everyone in this thread who says moving all-in isn't proper is
insane.
5 players to go from the money, everyone tightens up. You have
everyone
outchipped and everyone has less than 10 big blinds, therefore,
ALL-IN
is
the only move. Why the hell would you limp in?? What do you
accomplish
by
doing so? If anyone moves in, you call anyway. Push, no questions
asked.
I seriously can't fathom that there is an argument. The
original
poster
lost, that doesn't mean that he isn't correct in moving in. A small
raise
will commit anyone anyway, push and let them know you have a hand
and
you
won't back down. If you're limping you might as well just not play
tournament poker.
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"D.A.N." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Hindsight and all........ With that flop I would not have risked
more
chips with
AK and would have regretted not going all-in, until I saw the tens
of
course!
So for once it is good to be limp.............
On May 4 2005 7:45 AM, David P wrote:
The votes are in.
Two say push.
Two say limp.
One says make a small raise.
I moved all-in. The guy on my immediate left called with pocket
10s.
Two
hearts came on the flop (all babies). Turn and river were no
help. I
went
out
on the next hand when I raised UTG w/ J10s (I was down to 3k)
and
the
same guy
found QQ and called. I hit a flush to the J but, of course, he
had
the
Q.
Given the flop, I was going to double this guy up no matter
what. He
had
an
overpair post flop so no way he folds to any bet and it is
doubtful
that
he
would check it down post-flop if I had made a small raise.
The issue I have with limping is that I am letting two shorter
stacks in
for
cheap and free and if they do flop a pair then I have lost $1200
on
the
hand
when I could have won $2400 with the simple all-in raise. That's
a
swing
of
almost 1/3 of my stack.
Thanks for the feedback. AK all-in short-handed late in a
tournament
is
such
an
obvious play and I would like to be able to mix it up a little
more.
On May 4 2005 7:09 AM, D.A.N. wrote:
I would slow play because the obvious thing to do is jam it
in.
Since
you
are
the big stack in the hand you can bully after the flop.
On May 4 2005 1:00 AM, David P wrote:
Here is the setup:
$110 tournament. 61 players. Down to 13. 8 places paid (6-8
all
pay
under
$200 but first is $1,700). Six players at your table. Blinds
are
600/1200
w/
100 ante. You have 12k. You are second biggest stack. Big
stack
is
UTG
and
third stack is immediately to your left. Table has been very
tight.
You find AKh. UTG folds. What's your play? Why?
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