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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:28 pm    Post subject: this sucks Contest! 12/19/04 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: this sucks Contest! 12/19/04 Reply with quote

CRC 1 - STANDINOUTINACROWD
CRC 2 - PATENT
AQU 8 - UNCLE CAMIE
PHA 2 - ISITDUSTYBACKTHERE
TB 4 - WILD IRISH DANCER
alt. - 4 PIM, Toddler



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Smarty Jones "Gang Tackled" in Belmont: Fair? Reply with quote

"Ray Gordon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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There was a lot of talk about how the New York boys "gang tackled" Smarty
Jones by sacrificing a few horses on the front end, to help the closers
out
or at least hurt Smarty Jones.

How quickly they forget that SHAM pushed Secretariat to a sub-1:10 split
in
the 1973 Belmont, and Secretariat used that pace as a springboard to the
world record.

Should Smarty be Horse of the Year? I say no.

Should you be complete tool of the year?

I say yes.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: long 12/23 Reply with quote

SWB III
After further review I'm playing:
race 8 #2 Bicho De Luz 12
race 11 #6 Just Emma 8


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Smarty Jones "Gang Tackled" in Belmont: Fair? Reply with quote

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How quickly they forget that SHAM pushed Secretariat to a sub-1:10 split
in the 1973 Belmont, and Secretariat used that pace as a springboard to
the world record.

Should Smarty be Horse of the Year? I say no.

disagree.....irders/trainers do what they can to defeat any other horse

Yes, but when the tactic works, as it did with Smarty, that shows he's not
the same caliber as Secretariat.

Sham did as much or more to Secretariat than was done to Smarty Jones, and
Secretariat just laughed it off.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 1:38 am    Post subject: Re: Smarty Jones "Gang Tackled" in Belmont: Fair? Reply with quote

Ray Gordon wrote:
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How quickly they forget that SHAM pushed Secretariat to a sub-1:10 split
in the 1973 Belmont, and Secretariat used that pace as a springboard to
the world record.

Should Smarty be Horse of the Year? I say no.


disagree.....irders/trainers do what they can to defeat any other horse


Yes, but when the tactic works, as it did with Smarty, that shows he's not
the same caliber as Secretariat.

Sham did as much or more to Secretariat than was done to Smarty Jones, and
Secretariat just laughed it off.


those two (Sect and Jones) are LIGHT YEARS apart...just that this year

the latter showed amazing courage in outrunning his pedigree and gave
racing a strong shot in the arm...hew will get rewarded at some level
for that.

Tim Yatcak
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 3:58 am    Post subject: Re: Smarty Jones "Gang Tackled" in Belmont: Fair? Reply with quote

Quote:
How quickly they forget that SHAM pushed Secretariat to a sub-1:10 split
in the 1973 Belmont, and Secretariat used that pace as a springboard to
the world record.

Should Smarty be Horse of the Year? I say no.


disagree.....irders/trainers do what they can to defeat any other horse


Yes, but when the tactic works, as it did with Smarty, that shows he's
not the same caliber as Secretariat.

Sham did as much or more to Secretariat than was done to Smarty Jones,
and Secretariat just laughed it off.


those two (Sect and Jones) are LIGHT YEARS apart...just that this year the
latter showed amazing courage in outrunning his pedigree and gave racing a
strong shot in the arm...hew will get rewarded at some level for that.

I don't know if they are "light years apart," as Smarty's hooves were less
sound (and had worn down by the Belmont; there was no cartilege left to
spare).

Smarty's dad, Elusive Quality, holds the world record for a mile on either
surface (1:31.3 at Belmont), so we might see the influence continue in the
breeding shed.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: Smarty Jones "Gang Tackled" in Belmont: Fair? Reply with quote

NO horse, on either surface, did what Big red did in the last 50+ years:
1) all three triple crown races: TRACK RECORDS (two of which still stand
as one is a WORLD's RECORD), 2) EVERY quarter FASTER than the previous
one in the DERBY, 3) first time on the grass beats the leading candidate
for grass horse of the year in another track record performance. 4) in
the Belmont, pulling up, still beat the stadning world's record for mile
and 5/8ths owned by Swaps....

Now I really do admire the recent little guy, but I reiterate: THESE
guys are light years apart.
Quote:
I don't know if they are "light years apart," as Smarty's hooves were less
sound (and had worn down by the Belmont; there was no cartilege left to
spare).

Smarty's dad, Elusive Quality, holds the world record for a mile on either
surface (1:31.3 at Belmont), so we might see the influence continue in the
breeding shed.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:27 am    Post subject: no one pushed Big Red Reply with quote

Ray Gordon wrote:
Quote:
There was a lot of talk about how the New York boys "gang tackled" Smarty
Jones by sacrificing a few horses on the front end, to help the closers out
or at least hurt Smarty Jones.

How quickly they forget that SHAM pushed Secretariat to a sub-1:10 split in
the 1973 Belmont, and Secretariat used that pace as a springboard to the
world record.

Watched the Belmont again.....Sham had the lead into the clubhouse turn
and they came along side

one another for about 12-14 strides and THAT was it....The tremendous
machine never

flinched and just LEFT. He was NEVER pushed.

Tim Yatcak
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: no one pushed Big Red Reply with quote

Quote:
There was a lot of talk about how the New York boys "gang tackled" Smarty
Jones by sacrificing a few horses on the front end, to help the closers
out or at least hurt Smarty Jones.

How quickly they forget that SHAM pushed Secretariat to a sub-1:10 split
in the 1973 Belmont, and Secretariat used that pace as a springboard to
the world record.

Watched the Belmont again.....Sham had the lead into the clubhouse turn
and they came along side

one another for about 12-14 strides and THAT was it....The tremendous
machine never

flinched and just LEFT. He was NEVER pushed.

Well, he was pushed, but there wasn't much visual evidence due to his
abiilty to withstand it.

Had Smarty been as good as Secretariat, he would have won the Belmont
easily. 1:11 and 1:35 split times are hardly earth-shattering for a Triple
Crown champion.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:10 am    Post subject: Re: no one pushed Big Red Reply with quote

Ray Gordon wrote:
Quote:
There was a lot of talk about how the New York boys "gang tackled" Smarty
Jones by sacrificing a few horses on the front end, to help the closers
out or at least hurt Smarty Jones.

How quickly they forget that SHAM pushed Secretariat to a sub-1:10 split
in the 1973 Belmont, and Secretariat used that pace as a springboard to
the world record.

Watched the Belmont again.....Sham had the lead into the clubhouse turn
and they came along side

one another for about 12-14 strides and THAT was it....The tremendous
machine never

flinched and just LEFT. He was NEVER pushed.


Well, he was pushed, but there wasn't much visual evidence due to his
abiilty to withstand it.

Had Smarty been as good as Secretariat, he would have won the Belmont
easily. 1:11 and 1:35 split times are hardly earth-shattering for a Triple
Crown champion.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Best Racing System Ever (9- By PRN) Reply with quote

hi artvande
you are right about phillips newsletter's ratings.i started buying
their newsletter back in the 1970's when it was just three little white
pages
with some racing systems in it. i never made any money from the systems
in
the newsletter,but they were interesting to read,and they didn't cost
much,
and when they said they were the watchdogs of the racing fan i thought
they
must be a good company.i went to reno a few times in the 1980's,and i
bought
the newsletter at a bookstore there,which cost more then,snd the
systems in the
newsletter weren't any better than in the 1970's.in a newsletter it
said if you
had a system to send it to them,and they would evaluate it,as they did
with so
many others,so i sent them a computer program i had bought for $ 60,and
they said they would send me an evaluation if i sent them a self
addressed stamped envelope because of the price of postage,well i sent
the disk with the program,and photo copies of each page of the
instructions,and have never heard anything from them. then they said if
i wanted an evaluation i should send them the envelope that they asked
for by december of that year,and i still haven't heard from them,so no
matter what anyone else says,as far as i'm concerened they're nothing
but a bunch of crooks who even had to steal the envelope with the
postage i had put on it.
now any sytem that is reviewed,and rated by these people should be
avoided period.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: Strategy 3: Find the Qualified Race Reply with quote

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The first thing is to find the qualified race that you would want to bet
in.

It would have to have about 8 runners.
It would have to have a value to win of better than $2 per runner to be
able
to have the profitable bet.


Whatever your outlay would have to return a profit. Why do you have a
bet
if
you're still going to lose on a dividend that pays less than what you
wagered even when you get the winner?


Ignore races that are Not Recommended, e.g. races as "No. Of RUNNERS" or
WIN
POOL color becomes red.
Only seriously consider Horse and Trot races with about 8 runners and
Greyhounds with big win pool. It may be easier to get the winner in
small
races, but the dividends are usually small.



These few easy strategies would at least eliminate most unprofitable
races.



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Pls. Say NO to Gambling with Soc. Security! Reply with quote

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that elderly people can grow old with dignity. For that reason our
nation established the Social Security system. And that is why, after
70 years, Social Security remains a fundamental commitment of both our
political parties."

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January 13th, 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: SRC 1/15 (SA R5) Reply with quote

"tjtaylor" <[email protected]> wrote:
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$5 across on your top pick, $3 across on your second choice and $2 across
on
your third choice.

Name a couple alternates if you wish. Default rule is for your picks and

alternates to all move up a spot in case of a scratch. But if you wish for

your alternates to replace you scratched horse, you need to make note of

that with your picks.

This weeks race is the 5th race at Santa Anita.


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$5 WPS - Ponche de Leona
3 WPS - Arbun
2 WPS - Lucayan Beauty

alt. - Proud Nicole


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