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[alan]

If youve been watching Breaking Vegas, an upcoming show will be on dice
control. This is from the History Channel press release distributed
today via prnewswire.com -- and I know we'll all be watching:

BREAKING VEGAS: DICE DOMINATOR (Tuesday, June 14 at 9 pm ET/PT): For
most gamblers, how the dice land is a matter of luck. But for Dominic
LoRiggio, the "Dice Dominator," a.k.a. "The Man with the Golden Arm,"
it's purely a matter of skill. In 1997, LoRiggio mastered the seemingly
impossible -- controlling the flight of dice in a craps game. While
most casinos laugh off the notion,
LoRiggio set out to prove all of them wrong. After LoRiggio placed big
bets, and scored big, the casinos vowed to stop his $20,000 turns -- no
matter what. LoRiggio explains the physics behind the flight of dice,
and the eight critical steps to master the act of tossing two dice.

[Mr. V]

alan wrote:

[Dylanfreak]

Hey V,

I thought Scobe had said there were only about 20 players in the world
that had some control over the dice. Why the inflated number?

Dylanfreak

[Guest]

"This skill was originally developed in the late 1970s by a man known
simply as The Captain, who is said to have won more than $20 million at

casino dice tables around the country,"

Here's what Scoblete QUOTED "The Captain" as saying in his 1991 book
(page 25).

"As for fixing the dice, I do it. It's a little ritual. I also fix the
dice so that no seven is showing. Again, it's merely a superstition but
it makes me feel good, what's the harm? "

[Mason]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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[Michael Jones]

It ain't so, it's just selective quoting to put Scoblete down by
obviously jealous competitors such as Heavy. The whole notion of
Rhythmic Rolling, which Jerry Patterson changed to Rhythm Rolling in
1994 to teach his seminars, was created by the Captain and is written
about in articles and books by Scoblete in the early 1990s. You can buy
the controlled shooting thing or not, but the Captain was the MAN and
Scoblete was the man who wrote about the man.

The Captain is quoted in Scoblete's book The Captain's Craps
Revolution. When asked about dice control and whether it is possible,
he says: "Absolutely," and goes on to discuss it and the Arm, the woman
shooter Scoblete calls the best in the world. But then several pages
later, the Captain says he DOESN'T have the ability to CONTROL the
dice. What gives? Three years later, the Captain, Jimmy P and the Arm
won over a million and a half from Tropworld, now Tropicana, as was
recorded in Scoblete's book The Craps Underground. Was the Captain
putting on cover or deliberately using the word control as opposed to
influence? I think so. Winning the kind of money he won, in the
millions, probably made him very low key when it came to praising
himself.

In Guerrilla Gambling, Scoblete writes about controlled shooting and
calls it "dice control." That book has a 1993 copyright.

No matter what Heavy says and whether you believe in dice control or
dice influence, the Captain started it all. Attempting to take away his
profound influence on craps is wrong.

[Mason]

[Gregg Cattanach]

[email protected] wrote:

[Mr. V]

The point is that Scoblete, hack that he is, plays with the facts when
it suits him.

Hey, why let the truth get in the way of a good story?

"Rhythmic rollers" such as The Arm and (perhaps) the Captain (?) are
NOT dice setters, they're simply lucky on occasion.

The Captain was no setter, he was simply flamboyant and captivated the
easily impressed, hungry for something/someone/anyone/anything to
believe in Scoblete.

moth -------> flame.

roll dem bones

[Guest]

Whichever idiot is posting under the sock puppet handle Michael Jones
wrote, "No matter what Heavy says and whether you believe in dice
control or dice influence, the Captain started it all. Attempting to
take away his profound influence on craps is wrong."

Heavy says: Bullshit.

"How to Control Fair Dice" by T.K. Card Company was published in 1927.
Prior to WWII, the Hunt Company in Chicago published a similar booklet
called "Controlling Fair Dice." Here are a couple of links that might
enlighten you a bit:

http://www.oldandsold.com/articles01/article931.shtml

If you want to purchase a copy of the KC Card book, Larry Edell has it
for sale:

http://www.thecrapshooter.com/crapsshop/detail.cfm?ProductID=139

[Mason]

[Andrew Harper]

In the Gambling Times Guide to Craps by N.B. Winkless, Jr., copyright 1981,
Chapter 3 dealt with Improving on Probability: Shapes, Superskill and
Psychics. Included was a two page write-up on the Supershooter.

Basically dealt with a cabinet maker from Schenectady, who in 1965 converted
his pool table into a craps layout. Then spent considerable time practicing
his throw. The one simple objective was to "throw anything but a seven".
Worked on having a consistent throw, "tosses them with a certain amount of
energy, at just a certain angle, and tries to let them fall flat on one
side, to make a scuffing bounce and hit that particular spot on the
resilient end-board just hard enough to come back with a certain number of
turns."

Dice setting was limited to not having a seven showing anywhere on the dice.

Claimed to have a "record roll of 112 rolls before the seven hit.

Maybe Scoblete got to this guy back in 1965 (or the Captain did).



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[Lady Shooter]

Andrew Harper wrote:

[Bob Wilson]

Mr. V <[email protected]> wrote:

[Guest]

Yeah, I have a copy of the Winkless book. It's one of the good ones -
and a tad hard to find. In addition to his discussion of the
"supershooter," he touches on the subject of the so-called rhythmic
roller in "the quest of the happy engineers." Among other things the
engineers looked for - confident looking players, shooters who handle
the dice smoothly and do not throw them off the table, and no
distracting influences. Using their casino/table/player "charting"
criteria, the team scored a 16.3% win over 30,000 hands - neatly
overcoming the house edge and then some.

Another early book that touches on dice setting and precision shooting
is John Gollehon's Conquering Casino Craps. He talks about meeting
"the sharpshooter" while researching a book in Reno in 1985. The book
talks about dice control and goes so far as to describe the "spin shot"
and discuss some aspects of the theory of dice control, including the
distribution of numbers that will roll on certain axles.

Saying "the Captain" invented dice control is sort of like saying
"Colonel Sanders" invented fried chicken.