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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:00 am    Post subject: RGP Vancouver game... Reply with quote

Hey guys...

I've talked to Darrell at RiverRock and he's open to the idea of us having a
game. There are some roadblocks preventing us from playing any Hi/Lo games (not
the casino's fault) and Razz and TD aren't approved in BC... whatever!!!

Anyway, he's willing to get some dealers tuned up for us to put this mixed game
on.

Here's the deal. It'll be 8-handed. We'll play 4 games in 8-hand rotations.
$5/10 HE, $5/10 Omaha, $2/5 NL HE, $5/10 Stud ($1 ante/$2 Bring in). The blinds
for the community card games will be $2 and $5 thoughout the day. It'll start
at noon on Sunday, May 1st (I checked!) and we'll keep it going as long as we
like.

I told Darrell that I'd get a list of interest together for him to let him know
that we're serious. Could you please post below and/or email me at kincaid at
z95 dot com so that I can send him a list of interest. Then, he'll be more than
happy to make sure it comes together. Like I said, the game will be kept
8-handed, so let me know and be there as close to noon as you can be.

Big rule: no being an asshole if the dealer misreads a hand. We're playing
under the pretense that we're there to have fun with a new game.

Good stuff. See you there.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:00 am    Post subject: Re: RGP Vancouver game... Reply with quote

On Apr 19 2005 5:26 PM, Kincaid wrote:

Quote:
Hey guys...

I've talked to Darrell at RiverRock and he's open to the idea of us having a
game. There are some roadblocks preventing us from playing any Hi/Lo games
(not
the casino's fault) and Razz and TD aren't approved in BC... whatever!!!

Anyway, he's willing to get some dealers tuned up for us to put this mixed
game
on.

Here's the deal. It'll be 8-handed. We'll play 4 games in 8-hand
rotations.
$5/10 HE, $5/10 Omaha, $2/5 NL HE, $5/10 Stud ($1 ante/$2 Bring in). The
blinds
for the community card games will be $2 and $5 thoughout the day. It'll
start
at noon on Sunday, May 1st (I checked!) and we'll keep it going as long as we
like.

I told Darrell that I'd get a list of interest together for him to let him
know
that we're serious. Could you please post below and/or email me at kincaid
at
z95 dot com so that I can send him a list of interest. Then, he'll be more
than
happy to make sure it comes together. Like I said, the game will be kept
8-handed, so let me know and be there as close to noon as you can be.

Big rule: no being an asshole if the dealer misreads a hand. We're playing
under the pretense that we're there to have fun with a new game.

Good stuff. See you there.


I'm in like sin, FU ecr72!!!! ;)

Fell

p.s. lol @ razz and TD not approved in BC
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:00 am    Post subject: Re: RGP Vancouver game... aside Reply with quote

We can't have a tournament for legal reasons. (???)




On Apr 19 2005 5:26 PM, Kincaid wrote:

Quote:
Hey guys...

I've talked to Darrell at RiverRock and he's open to the idea of us having a
game. There are some roadblocks preventing us from playing any Hi/Lo games
(not
the casino's fault) and Razz and TD aren't approved in BC... whatever!!!

Anyway, he's willing to get some dealers tuned up for us to put this mixed
game
on.

Here's the deal. It'll be 8-handed. We'll play 4 games in 8-hand rotations.
$5/10 HE, $5/10 Omaha, $2/5 NL HE, $5/10 Stud ($1 ante/$2 Bring in). The
blinds
for the community card games will be $2 and $5 thoughout the day. It'll start
at noon on Sunday, May 1st (I checked!) and we'll keep it going as long as we
like.

I told Darrell that I'd get a list of interest together for him to let him
know
that we're serious. Could you please post below and/or email me at kincaid at
z95 dot com so that I can send him a list of interest. Then, he'll be more
than
happy to make sure it comes together. Like I said, the game will be kept
8-handed, so let me know and be there as close to noon as you can be.

Big rule: no being an asshole if the dealer misreads a hand. We're playing
under the pretense that we're there to have fun with a new game.

Good stuff. See you there.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: RGP Vancouver game... Reply with quote

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I've talked to Darrell at RiverRock and he's open to the idea of us having a
game. There are some roadblocks preventing us from playing any Hi/Lo games
(not
the casino's fault) and Razz and TD aren't approved in BC... whatever!!!

perhaps this should be an election issue. i vote for whoever approves the
change!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:01 am    Post subject: Why would anyone live in Vancouver? Reply with quote

Ah, another post about a Vancouver game at the RiverRock Casino. Since
Vancouverans (ites?) will be reading this thread, let me axe ya'll a
question or two.

I have been in Vancouver a few times, and I thought it was the cleanest
city I had ever seen. Anyway, how is the poker there compared to
elsewhere? It seems that the highest limits are 20-40. They don't seem
to have pot limit like there was 10 years ago (Lumberman's).

What else is the area good for, things to do etc.?

Would you suggest living in the city, or the suburbs or townships, or
whatever you call them?

What is the best company to get cable, or satellite TV? How about
internet? I think there are limits to how much you can download for most
internet providers in Vancouver, except one called Tellus, or Primus. Is
that one good, and do I have to live in certain areas to get service from
the better (best) ones?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:00 am    Post subject: Re: Why would anyone live in Vancouver? Reply with quote

Well... Vancouver is breathtaking for scenery.  We have mountain, ocean, plains,
etc... the golf here is exceptional and you can drive in any direction for a
great golf weekend out of town.  Not to mention the fact that you can golf all
year.

You can also go skiing on one of three local mountains within 30 mins of the
city.  Or you can go big and hit Whistler.

Vancouver has beaches to play on and bake on.  It has coastal rainforest to
explore.  It has burried treasure.  It has some of North America's best
restaurants. 

Vancouver has the hottest real estate market running in Canada right now. 
It's also a quickly growing city.

It has a race track (which is inhibited by the gov't) and a wicked drug
problem.  It has the worst road system in the known world with an even worse
public transit system.

It doesn't snow in Vancouver... much.   It gets really hot in the summer.  You
can get to a Mariners game in 3 hours and pass no less than 5 easy poker games
each way.  But the thing that keeps me in Vancouver is the hoards of really
terrible poker players. 

Having said that... don't move here.  The taxes are retarded and they only want
to hear from you if you are a burden to society and have nothing you will
offer.  Vancouver is a city of mooches... for now anyway.  Honestly, they
give... GIVE.... PRESCRIBE heroin to addicts.  Yeah.  It's called the NAOMI
Trials.  It isn't working.  Prescribing heroin.  I have a gambling problem...
are they going to prescribe me money.

Bass-Ackwards town, Vancouver.  Visit often.

On Apr 19 2005 8:33 PM, MarlaSinger wrote:

Quote:
Ah, another post about a Vancouver game at the RiverRock Casino. Since
Vancouverans (ites?) will be reading this thread, let me axe ya'll a
question or two.

I have been in Vancouver a few times, and I thought it was the cleanest
city I had ever seen. Anyway, how is the poker there compared to
elsewhere? It seems that the highest limits are 20-40. They don't seem
to have pot limit like there was 10 years ago (Lumberman's).

What else is the area good for, things to do etc.?

Would you suggest living in the city, or the suburbs or townships, or
whatever you call them?

What is the best company to get cable, or satellite TV? How about
internet? I think there are limits to how much you can download for most
internet providers in Vancouver, except one called Tellus, or Primus. Is
that one good, and do I have to live in certain areas to get service from
the better (best) ones?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:00 am    Post subject: Re: RGP Vancouver game... Reply with quote

On Apr 19 2005 5:54 PM, FellKnight wrote:

Quote:

I'm in like sin, FU ecr72!!!! ;)

Fell


LMAO Do I deserve that? Seriously. Haha.

Fell, you should think about getting off that island a day early. There
will not be anything holding you back, like say the Home Game Championship
or anything. :P

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:00 am    Post subject: Re: Why would anyone live in Vancouver? Reply with quote

"MarlaSinger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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What else is the area good for, things to do etc.?

Vancouver is best known for its outdoor resources. There are 3 ski
operations within 20 minutes of downtown (Cypress, Grouse, and Seymour). One
of North America greatest ski resort complexes is 80 miles north
(Whistler/Blackcomb) along the gorgeous Sea-to-Sky Highway. Vancouver has
some of the best mountain biking terrain anywhere on its world famous (among
mountain bikers) "North Shore". There are mountain parks all around the
region offering world class hiking, camping and mountaineering. Being on the
Pacific Ocean and protected by Vancouver Island there is of course excellent
boating opportunities around the innumerable nearby islands and inlets.
Vancouver is also a jumping off point for hunting and fishing enthusiasts.

There are several high quality beaches around Vancouver which are favorite
weekend hangouts, especially during the sunny summer months. If you are into
partying nekked, Wreck Beach (on the UBC campus) is a good choice. Wreck has
a carnival atmosphere and you can buy all your party supplies "on site".


Quote:
Would you suggest living in the city, or the suburbs or townships, or
whatever you call them?

No contest. The city. But Vancouver proper is very expensive by Canadian
standards, although no where near the prices found in the most desirable
American cities like San Francisco or New York. A decent house in Vancouver
costs between $400,000 and $1MillCAD. Rental rates seem to bear no relation
to these high house prices. Renting is much more affordable. You can rent a
pretty nice apartment for $1000/mo if you know where to look.

Vancouver doesn't have a lot of freeways so if you do the 9-5 thing and live
in the burbs you can end up in some hellish traffic (again, by Canadian
standards - nothing like LA or Seattle)

Quote:

What is the best company to get cable, or satellite TV? How about
internet?

Shaw provides cable TV and internet. You get a deal if you bundle the
services. I get deluxe cable TV (but without movie or pay channels) and
cable internet for $59CAD/mo including taxes

Quote:
I think there are limits to how much you can download for most
internet providers in Vancouver, except one called Tellus, or Primus.

Supposedly Shaw has unpublished limits on download bandwidth but I have
never run up against them, and I D/L a lot of music. If you are downloading
movies it might be a different story. I have heard of people getting emails
about downloading too much, but I think you can pay $10/mo more for more
bandwidth.

Is
Quote:
that one good, and do I have to live in certain areas to get service from
the better (best) ones?

Never had any real problems with Shaw. My internet service recently went
down for the first time in 3 years and it took them 48 hours to come out and
fix it. They gave me a free month of internet and TV to make it right.

Vancouver is consistently ranked among the most livable cities in the world.
I think you will enjoy it here.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:00 am    Post subject: Re: Why would anyone live in Vancouver? Reply with quote

Gotta disagree with Kincaid on a some points...the downtown Eastside
has the highest concentration of homeless, Hep-C, HIV and drug addicts
in north america, but we're talking a few square blocks; there are lots
of great areas. it's a great town with one really sick neighborhood.
it's got diversity... demographically, geographically.... AND
superstitious, luck oriented poker players. In the spring, you can so
skiing, and suntan on the beach on the same day, for crying out loud.
top that.

The public transportation isn't as good as a grid city, for obvious
reasons.. bridges, housing halfway up the mountainside, etc... it takes
a long time to get to the sprawling suburbs... but we have a skytrain
(light rail, rapid transit).

Real estate is booming; there are condos going up everywhere... good
for job creation but means that it's expensive to live here. Still not
as expensive as Seattle though.

Shaw Cable is the default cable provider for most of the city, and
their net service is great. I live out in a suburb and am serviced by
dccnet.com. Best ISP I've ever had... essentially zero downtime, and
full -speed bandwidth available pretty much all the time. no limit on
usage, same with Shaw.

I think people here go to sleep too early... the city has a relaxed
vibe....yet people aren't as friendly in passing, as other places...
strangers don't say hi to you, but if you're a regular someplace,
you'll fiind the people pretty easy-going.

p.s. look forward to hooking up with RGPers sometime... not this
month; I'm pretty broke.. I didn't lose at poker, but needed my roll
for real-life expenses (oh yeah.... those...) look forward to an
outing report from the RGP game.

Chris
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:00 am    Post subject: Re: Why would anyone live in Vancouver? Reply with quote

"Kincaid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Having said that... don't move here. The taxes are retarded

What taxes are you referring to?

and they only want
Quote:
to hear from you if you are a burden to society and have nothing you will
offer. Vancouver is a city of mooches... for now anyway.

A city of mooches? What is the unemployment rate in Vancouver? I thought it
was around 5% or 6%.

Quote:
Honestly, they
give... GIVE.... PRESCRIBE heroin to addicts. Yeah. It's called the NAOMI
Trials.

Better to let them spread HIV and die on the street and no contact with
medical personel? I have a feeling you know very little to nothing about
heroin addiction.

Quote:
It isn't working.

And you base this brilliant statement on what?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:00 am    Post subject: Re: Why would anyone live in Vancouver? Reply with quote

You're bang on about the people not being friendly.  I moved here from Calgary
when if somebody looks the least bit lost, it's a foot race to help that
person.  In Vancouver you get pepper-sprayed for greeting somebody at a bus
stop.  (Hyperbole)

You're also right about the bedtime here.  Why do I have to scour the city for
food at midnight?  (Beyond sliced pizza)

Will you be joining us for the mixed game on May 1st?  That's next month,
right!?!

On Apr 19 2005 10:18 PM, cjv1212 wrote:

Quote:
Gotta disagree with Kincaid on a some points...the downtown Eastside
has the highest concentration of homeless, Hep-C, HIV and drug addicts
in north america, but we're talking a few square blocks; there are lots
of great areas. it's a great town with one really sick neighborhood.
it's got diversity... demographically, geographically.... AND
superstitious, luck oriented poker players. In the spring, you can so
skiing, and suntan on the beach on the same day, for crying out loud.
top that.

The public transportation isn't as good as a grid city, for obvious
reasons.. bridges, housing halfway up the mountainside, etc... it takes
a long time to get to the sprawling suburbs... but we have a skytrain
(light rail, rapid transit).

Real estate is booming; there are condos going up everywhere... good
for job creation but means that it's expensive to live here. Still not
as expensive as Seattle though.

Shaw Cable is the default cable provider for most of the city, and
their net service is great. I live out in a suburb and am serviced by
dccnet.com. Best ISP I've ever had... essentially zero downtime, and
full -speed bandwidth available pretty much all the time. no limit on
usage, same with Shaw.

I think people here go to sleep too early... the city has a relaxed
vibe....yet people aren't as friendly in passing, as other places...
strangers don't say hi to you, but if you're a regular someplace,
you'll fiind the people pretty easy-going.

p.s. look forward to hooking up with RGPers sometime... not this
month; I'm pretty broke.. I didn't lose at poker, but needed my roll
for real-life expenses (oh yeah.... those...) look forward to an
outing report from the RGP game.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Why would anyone live in Vancouver? Reply with quote

On Apr 19 2005 10:47 PM, Bill Bradley wrote:

Quote:
"Kincaid" wrote in message
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Having said that... don't move here. The taxes are retarded

What taxes are you referring to?

Income, property, liquor, sales, and gas... for starters.  Should I throw in
levies and compulsory payments like AirCare too?


Quote:

and they only want
to hear from you if you are a burden to society and have nothing you will
offer. Vancouver is a city of mooches... for now anyway.

A city of mooches? What is the unemployment rate in Vancouver? I thought it
was around 5% or 6%.

6.5% of otherwise reasonably employable and independent Canadians living in

Vancouver are unemployed.  Does that mean that 93.5% of the people who should be
working here are?  Guess what... a lot of the working class in Vancouver are
poor too.


Quote:
Honestly, they
give... GIVE.... PRESCRIBE heroin to addicts. Yeah. It's called the NAOMI
Trials.

Better to let them spread HIV and die on the street and no contact with
medical personel? I have a feeling you know very little to nothing about
heroin addiction.


You can buy them all the heroin you want.  I'll pay for the ambulance everytime
one of them puts a little too much horse on the spoon.  I don't know where
you're getting your info from, buckeroo, but the medical personel and the city
have bent over backwards to make sure they are accessable here. 

I don't know much about herion addiction, you're right.  Coke, painkillers, and
booze though... I've licked those three.

Quote:
It isn't working.

And you base this brilliant statement on what?
 

The fact that they could only find three people willing to take part in the
program in the first month.  If they were offering poker freerolls to drum up
publicity and the best they could do was manage a heads up match... do you think
they'd call it a raving success?




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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Why would anyone live in Vancouver? Reply with quote

"Kincaid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Quote:
What taxes are you referring to?

Income, property, liquor, sales, and gas... for starters. Should I throw
in
levies and compulsory payments like AirCare too?

I don't think AirCare is a tax. It's a fee to have your car's exhaust
tested. What is it, $50 every few years or something like that? I can't
even remember.

Anyhow, here's a chart showing total taxation as % of GDP of industrialized
countries.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/tax_tot_tax_as_of_gdp

It should be obvious that total taxation in Canada is not "retarded", but
rather perfectly average among industrialized countries, and far less than
many. When comparing Canada's 36% with the US's 30%, do keep in mind
Canadian taxes include medical care. That pretty much makes it a wash.



Quote:
6.5% of otherwise reasonably employable and independent Canadians living
in
Vancouver are unemployed. Does that mean that 93.5% of the people who
should be working here are? Guess what... a lot of the working class in
Vancouver are poor too.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say there; maybe you can rephrase it for
me. But you do realize that that unemployment rate is less than Canada's
overall rate and comparable to other cities across Canada? As you know
economists consider 4% unemployment "full employment". I'm not clear how a
6.5% unemployment rate, right in line with Canada's overall unemployment
rate and that of other cities, makes Vancouver a "city of mooches".


Quote:
Honestly, they
give... GIVE.... PRESCRIBE heroin to addicts. Yeah. It's called the
NAOMI Trials.


Quote:
Better to let them spread HIV and die on the street and no contact with
medical personel? I have a feeling you know very little to nothing about
heroin addiction.

You can buy them all the heroin you want. I'll pay for the ambulance
everytime
one of them puts a little too much horse on the spoon.

Listen to yourself.

Quote:
I don't know where
you're getting your info from, buckeroo, but the medical personel and the
city
have bent over backwards to make sure they are accessable here.

Well, I'm not sure what you mean by "bending over backwards". That sounds
awfully vague, but whatever they are doing it certainly hasn't worked.
Health Canada declared a public health emergency in the Lower Eastside in
1997 and things are only getting worse. HIV infection is up to 30% in
Vancouver IV users. People are dying and will continue to die. The idea is
to keep trying possible solutions till something works. It only makes sense
to try things that have worked well in places with similar problems. That is
what they are finally doing here.

Quote:
I don't know much about herion addiction, you're right. Coke, painkillers,
and
booze though... I've licked those three.

Then I would expect more compassion from you.

Quote:
It isn't working.

And you base this brilliant statement on what?

The fact that they could only find three people willing to take part in
the
program in the first month. If they were offering poker freerolls to drum
up
publicity and the best they could do was manage a heads up match... do you
think they'd call it a raving success?


I don't think you have your facts straight. The Naomi trials are not a
"program" per se. This is a *study*. The study just started in February and
I believe is scheduled to last at least 2 years. I don't know how many
research subjects they have yet, but I believe they are looking for 150 for
the Vancouver part of the study. The patient intake is scheduled to last the
first year. I'm not surprised they are having problems finding willing
research subjects because they must provide all kinds of personal
information and follow-up and be subjected to blood and urine tests,
criminal record checks, etc. etc. It's not something the average street user
is going to get too enthused over.

But to say a *study* that has just barely started and doesn't even have a
full roster of participants yet "isn't working" demonstrates to me that you
have a fundamental misunderstanding of what is actually taking place here.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Why would anyone live in Vancouver? Reply with quote

On Apr 20 2005 1:09 AM, Bill Bradley wrote:
Quote:
Vancouver is consistently ranked among the most livable cities in the world.
I think you will enjoy it here.


I've been through there twice on the way to Whistler, both times I felt
the same way I did when I saw San Franscisco the first time, just a
wonderful place. But if you are an American how the hell do you just pick
up and live there, I was thinking about a move to New Zealand once and
just for kicks sent an immigration poll to Canada as its a part of the
Empire. Didn't score enough points to qualify, and I'm a Doctor?

As an aside, in my wandering youth I was in Canada above the Idaho
pan-handle when my car broke down, they said the part would have to come
from Regina (heh, Regina), and it would take three days. I asked what the
hell was I supposed to do for three days? They said go pick fruit, I was
in the fruit growing center of Canada. Well he let me, but the orchard
owner was very nervous, he said if the immigration came I would have to
lie to them and tell them I was from Calgary or something and didn't have
an ID. Pretty funny, a 22 year old white boy who grew up in south Texas
among the illegals, now an illegal himself. I picked apples for two days,
50 cents a box, then said screw it, too much like real work. Luckily the
car was ready.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: Why would anyone live in Vancouver? Reply with quote

"Kincaid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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My biggest problem with my taxes is that I barely use what I pay for. Of
course
I think I should have to pay for the roads I drive on, but the last time I
was
in a hospital, I weighed 7lbs, 8oz. I don't believe in conventional
medicine or
pharmaceuticles, but I have to pay for these things every month. The
services I
do seek for wellness, aren't covered. Do I not have a right to feel
ripped-off?

Don't worry..you will become a believer real quick when, say, your kidneys
fail and the pixie dust your shaman sprinkles on you or the St John's Wort
your wellness practitioner shoves up your ass doesn't do shit. Then when
those doctors you don't believe in save your life by giving you a kidney
transplant, at a cost to the taxpayers of a few hundred thousand dollars,
you'll be glad everyone chipped in. I guarantee it. ;-)


Quote:
City of mooches... walk down a downtown street. Go to an ER. Go to an
Immigration office... see the mooches. It's the climate we've created.


Jeezus H. Crist. What a wild goose chase. I spent half the day walking the
streets and visiting ERs and immigration offices and I didn't see one thing
different from any other city. I guess the joke's on me.
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