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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: danny ..Josh..Erick .etc degenrative gamblers?? Reply with quote

what the hell is wrong with these guys ??..betting 1000's of dollars on
pool ..basketball..etc and even worse telling the public about it ??
how is that gonna help there with there PR??
are all top poker players sick gamblers?? whatever happened to math
...odds ..+EV..pyschology ..Blah Blah Blah..
Are we all at the end like that old guy with an Oxygen tank next to him
sitting in a corner of a 7 eleven at 3am trying to match the cherry in
one line??!!!!is that the bottom line???!!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: danny ..Josh..Erick .etc degenrative gamblers?? Reply with quote

poor guy ..why are you so mad?? I didnt mean to insult your oxygen
tank>??....
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: danny ..Josh..Erick .etc degenrative gamblers?? Reply with quote

bottom line is this....they are degenerate losers.  out all night, sleep all
day.  in reality, they are all alone.   it's like dating a drug dealer.   make
good money, but still a loser.  any woman (or man in danny's case) is real
cookoo to commit to one of these losers.  

 
On Apr 21 2005 2:49 AM, [email protected] wrote:

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eat shit, jelous pricks, Danny and Erick both have millions. They did
not get to where they are because they are your typical mathematical
nerd. Mathematical nerds like Sklansky(no offence) dont go past 30/60
or mabe 80/160. Of course they are not normal, they have exceptional
talents. People like you make me sick, looking for any way to belittle
quality people to make your pathetic existance seem not so completely
pathetic.



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: danny ..Josh..Erick .etc degenrative gamblers?? Reply with quote

eat shit, jelous pricks, Danny and Erick both have millions. They did
not get to where they are because they are your typical mathematical
nerd. Mathematical nerds like Sklansky(no offence) dont go past 30/60
or mabe 80/160. Of course they are not normal, they have exceptional
talents. People like you make me sick, looking for any way to belittle
quality people to make your pathetic existance seem not so completely
pathetic.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: danny ..Josh..Erick .etc degenrative gamblers?? Reply with quote

i'll answer for you..YES!   Could you imagine being married to or the girlfriend
of one of these degenerate losers?  In danny's case, a boyfriend.  I feel bad
for those people.


On Apr 21 2005 2:27 AM, ram00 wrote:

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what the hell is wrong with these guys ??..betting 1000's of dollars on
pool ..basketball..etc and even worse telling the public about it ??
how is that gonna help there with there PR??
are all top poker players sick gamblers?? whatever happened to math
...odds ..+EV..pyschology ..Blah Blah Blah..
Are we all at the end like that old guy with an Oxygen tank next to him
sitting in a corner of a 7 eleven at 3am trying to match the cherry in
one line??!!!!is that the bottom line???!!



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: danny ..Josh..Erick .etc degenrative gamblers?? Reply with quote

Well stated!




On Apr 20 2005 11:49 PM, bigcoupee wrote:

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eat shit, jelous pricks, Danny and Erick both have millions. They did
not get to where they are because they are your typical mathematical
nerd. Mathematical nerds like Sklansky(no offence) dont go past 30/60
or mabe 80/160. Of course they are not normal, they have exceptional
talents. People like you make me sick, looking for any way to belittle
quality people to make your pathetic existance seem not so completely
pathetic.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: danny ..Josh..Erick .etc degenrative gamblers?? Reply with quote

While I agree with you that their poker style is better than Sklansky's for
getting to the top of the poker world, I have to somewhat agree with the OP as
far as their lifestyles are concerned.

I really dont believe one must be a "gambler" to be a great poker player. My
guess is that the old Texas road gamblers (most especially Doyle), were big
gamblers, and the new up and comers as they established themselves and became
accepted among the subculture of elite poker players, they probably were kind of
expected to be "one of the boys" and make silly side bets and sports bets etc.
Thus, they got into these other forms of gambling, or at least perhaps more
heavily than they were before.

Its just a guess of course, really I have no idea, but from what I've read it
appears that high stakes players are very sociable with each other and seem to
have a tight knit circle. Of course Danny and the others are big boys, so if
this is the case its no excuse, but I do think its understandable.

David

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:24 am    Post subject: re:danny ..Josh..Erick .etc degenrative gamblers?? Reply with quote

Not trying to take sides but I dont think $1000 to those guys is a lot of money. I know that I have played cards (kaiser, Crib) at my work on break with some of the guys and the losers have to buy a couple rounds, after work. If had as much money as Daniel and Erick then I think playing for $1000 would probally feel about the same.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: danny ..Josh..Erick .etc degenrative gamblers?? Reply with quote

On Apr 21 2005 2:27 AM, ram00 wrote:
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whatever happened to math
...odds ..+EV..pyschology ..Blah Blah Blah..

They're all secondary.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: danny ..Josh..Erick .etc degenrative gamblers?? Reply with quote

They're betting their money, not yours. What the hell is your problem?

They make more than $1 Million a year. So they bet $1000 on a pool game, big
deal. You sound like you make probably $50K a year, if that. So, in relative
terms, it is the equivalent of you betting $50 on a pool game, NCAA office pool,
or whatever. How does this make one a degenerate gambler?

You're just jealous of these guys. Go back to your boring-ass wage slave life.

On Apr 20 2005 11:27 PM, ram00 wrote:

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what the hell is wrong with these guys ??..betting 1000's of dollars on
pool ..basketball..etc and even worse telling the public about it ??
how is that gonna help there with there PR??
are all top poker players sick gamblers?? whatever happened to math
...odds ..+EV..pyschology ..Blah Blah Blah..
Are we all at the end like that old guy with an Oxygen tank next to him
sitting in a corner of a 7 eleven at 3am trying to match the cherry in
one line??!!!!is that the bottom line???!!



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: danny ..Josh..Erick .etc degenrative gamblers?? Reply with quote

You guys ever read the front section of SuperSystem? I can't speak for Negraneau
or Lindgren, but Doyle has admitted losing millions in bad wagers. I highly
doubt their highest wagers are at the 1k mark.

David

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: danny ..Josh..Erick .etc degenrative gamblers?? Reply with quote

long term, if you don't got the gamble in you, you can't reach their
level.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: danny ..Josh..Erick .etc degenrative gamblers?? Reply with quote

Probably the only true statement in this thread.  If you're not a gambler (i.e.
it doesn't make you want to shit yourself when you have 1m on the line in a ring
game) you won't be a very good poker player.

The mental side of things for these guys is what makes them so good.  You could
be a great player, but if playing a 5k HU match scares you, you can't reach the
top.

On Apr 21 2005 5:04 AM, Madd Scientist wrote:

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long term, if you don't got the gamble in you, you can't reach their
level.



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